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MrCross
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reply date: 2012-05-31 10:45:10
This is usually a popular topic and I rather enjoy discussing it. Anyone care to debate? I'll start by clarifying the biggest misconceptions about evolution. Evolution is a natural fact, evolutionary theory is the scientific model that explains it. Facts and theories are different things, not separate rungs on a ladder of increasing certainty. Evolution doesn't mean that a chimp should give birth to a human or a fish should give birth to a squirrel frog, it means that there are variations in heritable traits in populations that are passed on at different frequencies depending on the benefit/harm imparted. There are 'still monkeys' because we share common ancestry with modern monkeys, we did not evolve from them. So that's like asking "If American's came from Europeans why are there still Europeans?" |
shelbinator
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reply date: 2012-05-31 10:50:46
I get the theory of evolution cause it makes sense for living things to evolve into new species over time and gain new characteristics to adapt to the environment. But I guess I also appreciate the idea that God could've caused evolution. I've actually got a friend who doesn't believe in evolution, she doesn't believe anything existed before 1600 AD.... It's confusing but that's what she says xD
I like that video of evolution above  There's another one, but I can't find it |
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shelbinator
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reply date: 2012-05-31 10:55:40
That's the video! Right here, right now, by Fatboy slim! |
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MrCross
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reply date: 2012-05-31 10:56:56
” I get the theory of evolution cause it makes sense for living things to evolve into new species over time and gain new characteristics to adapt to the environment. But I guess I also appreciate the idea that God could've caused evolution.shelbinator Theistic evolution has definitely become more popular given the inability to deny the massive amounts of evidence for evolution but a lot of people seem to confuse this to mean that evolution is scientific evidence for theistic belief, it's not. |
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shelbinator
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reply date: 2012-05-31 11:00:00
” Theistic evolution has definitely become more popular given the inability to deny the massive amounts of evidence for evolution but a lot of people seem to confuse this to mean that evolution is scientific evidence for theistic belief, it's not.MrCross I suppose so, but at the end of the day religion and science are always gonna argue with each other xD Plus the evolution theory also has it's flaws too, cause alot of it's evidence is based in fossils and the idea of creature adapting from older creatures that are now extinct |
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WhoWantsPies
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reply date: 2012-05-31 13:21:34
What is there to argue about? There is evidence to support the theory of evolution. There is NOT evidence to support creationism. Which one instantly becomes infinitely more credible? |
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MrCross
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reply date: 2012-05-31 13:39:45
” What is there to argue about?
There is evidence to support the theory of evolution. There is NOT evidence to support creationism. Which one instantly becomes infinitely more credible?WhoWantsPies True, there is no debate scientifically but I just think it's an interesting topic. |
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shelbinator
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reply date: 2012-05-31 14:31:32
” There is evidence to support the theory of evolution.
WhoWantsPies True that there is evidence for the theory of evolution, but there is also the question of the credibility of the evidence and it's reliability. For example there are huuuuuge gaps in the fossil records, which is on of the biggest pieces of evidence for the theory of evolution so far |
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MrCross
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reply date: 2012-05-31 16:30:01
” True that there is evidence for the theory of evolution, but there is also the question of the credibility of the evidence and it's reliability. For example there are huuuuuge gaps in the fossil records, which is on of the biggest pieces of evidence for the theory of evolution so farshelbinator Firstly, there aren't really that many gaps left in the fossil record, I mean we even have the entire transition of the marine mammals middle ear along with the concurrent shift of the blowhole. On top of that, the fossil record is now supplementary to genetics which puts evolution beyond any reasonable doubt. If we had never found a fossil, common ancestry would have hit us on the head like a sackful of hammers the instant we discovered genomics. |
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reply date: 2012-06-01 20:43:14
Meh, I just go along with what they teach me and it's worked. Evolution just seems like a fact. |
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