Because the private message system filters out external links, I'm posting a reply to one of prizehunta's PMs here instead. It is as follows:
My apologies for such a long reply (18 pages worth[!], according to MS Works), but I had to convey a great deal of information, and opinion, and I'm naturally a long-winded guy. I imagine there will be quite a few word filters in place that'll change some of my post, or disrupt some of my links. I don't know quite what it'll end up looking like, since the preview button doesn't indicate censored words, so you'll either have to work it out from the context, or I'll repost the PM over on the forum topic, where the preview filter is a little better.
I know it may seem like "subliminals" are true, tested and confirmed because it sounds real, or because it's mentioned a lot, but really, it's not. Most of the research on it is flawed, fraudulent, or just plain non-existent. This hasn't stopped popular culture picking up on it and re-enforcing the belief in people that it works. I trust John Carpenter's They Live has been mentioned half a dozen times on whatever conspiracy forum or website you frequent. It's a good film, highly critical of the consumerism of the 80s and advertising in general, but it's just a movie. When you look at the actual research? It's all bogus.
"Where does imagination come from?"...boy, now you're into that age old chestnut. "Think of a new colour, bet you can't" kind of stuff. This is, perhaps, even huger than the issue of bankers and their bonuses, because it's not just a simple case of "memory", if at all, but a whole lot of other biological and physical stuff going on, such as the visible colour spectrum, or the limits on what our retinas are able to perceive, which I'm not really up to speed upon.
But that's colours, as for coming up with a new idea, well, that doesn't make much sense. You're implying it's somehow impossible to come up with a new idea, because they've already been thought of, or because we simply can't do it. We've been to the Moon, prizehunta - we're a smart, curious species who are always coming up with new things - from a stick to a spacecraft, to a large hadron collider. In fiction? Yeah, Hollywood recycles the same few plots (Hero's Journey, The Hero with a Thousand Faces, and all that jazz), but in reality? Just read any list of the Greatest Inventions of All Time and be amazed at human ingenuity. The argument that we can't come up with anything new reminds of Karl Pilkington, in an episode of the Ricky Gervais podcast, where he moans that everything that's going to be invented has already been invented. I'd post a link, but there's no copy on YouTube up. It's the "...Guide to Natural History" episode. It's a fallacy to assume human progress has suddenly slumped because you (or I) can't come up with something on the spur of the moment, or that you were 'subliminally influenced' by television to be dumb. One can never be too old to stop (or indeed start) learning.
"if imagination comes from memories and experiences"
Does it? It may seem like so, but this may be a preconceived conclusion on your part. You can't form a sound conclusion if your principles aren't proven.
"Neutro-Lingustic-Programming" is, sadly, another bit of New Age mumbo jumbo with a fancy, scientific sounding name. I'm not sure where you got your information from, but when I "search it up", I find the same tell-tale signs of fraudulent research and hokum. If you could give me your links, I'd be happy. My reading up on it shows it's just another catch-all alternative health scam, where they travel up and down the country giving lectures and self-help courses (for a significant fee - £40 - £100 on one website. Just like the source you used in the forum topic on subliminal messaging (I trust you read my reply), it's simply a self-help course where you pay out of the nose to learn the hidden secrets of the mind, helping you with business success, confidence, learning English, curing psoriasis, weight loss, and my favourite one of all, healing cancer.
Needless to say, when it comes to data and evidence, NLP falls flat on its face. There were two studies done by Christopher Sharpley in 1984 and 1987. In 1984, he said there was ""little research evidence supporting its usefulness as an effective counseling tool", and by '87, "there are conclusive data from the research on NLP, and the conclusion is that the principles and procedures of NLP have failed to be supported by those data"." There was a study done in 1989 by the United States National Research Council, and their conclusion: "individually, and as a group, these studies fail to provide an empirical base of support for NLP assumptions...or NLP effectiveness. The committee cannot recommend the employment of such an unvalidated technique".
It's an unproven, long outdated piece of psycho babble from the 70s that doesn't work. If "most councilors/therapists use it", then they're clearly not qualified, prize. I know delving into scientific and psychology material is scary (and mostly boring), so I recommend this episode of QI instead, called Hypnotism, Hallucinations And Hysteria. Not only does it cover hypnotism, but at 15:47, it covers how easy it is to get a degree in hypnotherapy, so easy in fact, even a cat could do it.
Ah, the Illuminati. I'm not sure where you get the date 1823, or that they ever reformed, since there's no evidence for it. As I said in the forum topic, all this hullabaloo about the Illuminati can be traced back to one man, called John Robison in Scotland. To truly appreciate the subject, you need a whole lot of context about the French Revolution, philosophers like Voltaire, Bavarian monarchy, the Age of Enlightenment, the fear of revolution and liberal reform, and so on. I'll try my best.
What things do we know about the (real) Illuminati? We know it was formed May 1st, 1776, in Bavaria, Germany, and indeed, was by a man called Adam Weishaupt. Weishaupt was a Professor of Natural and Canon Law at the University of Ingolstadt, which over the period of the Enlightenment, loosened its Jesuit grip on religious teaching and had became mostly secular. With the Jesuits gone, enlightened ideals such as freedom of association, thought and speech (those things we have now), as well as liberal reform, were able to flourish at the University. Bavaria at the time was being ruled by a chap called Charles Theodore, who was a proponent of absolute monarchism, and a concept called "Enlightened Despotism." I'm sure you're familiar with the concept of monarchy and the class system, with a ruler at the very top, and their poor subjects at the very bottom. The Illuminati was a group based on Enlightenment ideals of secularism, science, free speech, freedom of thought, freedom to meet and socialise with people as they choose. Rather than be ruled by a monarch, they wanted a fairer society. Ideals which were despised by the religious ruling class. You can see how the two ideals would clash, and why the group was eventually banned, along with all other secret societies, in 1784.
So, rather than the Illuminati being a ruthless, power-hungry tyrant like conspiracy theorists make out, it was actually Theodore, who banned all groups from meeting in secret, lest they plot to conspire and overthrow him, who was the bad guy, and the Illuminati were the victims. The group, as far as evidence goes, never reformed. Why would they? They'd be thrown in prison, or face the possibility of execution if they did. Unlike today, prizehunta, freedom of thought and association didn't exist, and it was groups like the Illuminati that sought it, but failed to achieve it. Their little organisation was crushed, and Weishaupt was forced to leave Bavaria, and found his way to Gotha, where he remained for the rest of his life. Theodore, being a bit of a smug git, then published some of the seized Illuminati material, which had been taken from the homes of known Illuminati members like Xavier Zwack, which included some of the group's philosophies and member lists. You can read some of the material here, or in its original German publication here.
(side note: the original materials on the Illuminati have never been translated into English from their original German, the material above is a recent attempt from a French translation. Conspiracy theorists don't like actual research, preferring just to make it up themselves, hence them never having been translated before now, in over 200 years)
Anyway, so far, so history.
All is quiet until 1789, when the French Revolution explodes, and the absolute monarchy that had ruled France was overthrown in short order, and the new order promoted a constitutional democracy. This would scare the living bejesus out of Europe, where several other countries feared similar uprisings - not just monarchs themselves, but also, loyalist subjects. One such subject was a certain John Robison, living in Scotland.
Robinson was a professor of Natural Philosophy at Edinburgh University for over 25 years, starting with his appointment in 1773. In addition to his teaching duties, he was also one of the contributors to the Encyclopedia Britannica, writing articles on a whole variety of subjects, some of which were collected and published separately after his death. You can read such a publication here.
Needless to say, he was a pretty smart dude. However, his contributions to science and education have all been forgotten, and he is remembered now for one thing only; a book called ""Proofs of a Conspiracy Against all the Religions and Governments of Europe Carried on in the Secret Meetings of Free Masons, Illuminati and Reading Societies". In it, he alleged that a secret society called the Illuminati were plotting to overthrow the monarchies and religions of Europe, and rise up and rule in their place. I trust you are familiar with his book, prizehunta, because he is the foundation of all modern conspiracy theories. It all comes back to him, and when you realise his book is mostly paranoid ravings of a man who feared democratic change, with no actual evidence, you'll realise that EVERYTHING built on top of it (the New World Order, Bilderberg, Illuminati symbolism, space aliens from the constellation Draco, etc), all come crashing down, as they have no base to stand upon. The book is still being published and referenced today without any edits to its vast mistakes, or questioning its judgement.
As I said, "Proofs" is what Robison is most known for, as his book sold out almost instantly ("the impression's being exhausted in a few days" - says Robison in the 2nd printing's postscript), and was soon in its fourth printing by 1798, and had long made its way to America, appearing in as far off places as New York and Philadelphia, as you can see below:
Robison, like the rest of Europe, read the news of the bloody revolution happening across France, and the rise of Napoleon's army, which was then marching its way into Italy, and he couldn't understand why the French Revolution had occurred. Rather than believe the uprising was the will of a fed-up people living under the turmoil of an unfair monarch, he thought there was a hidden conspiracy which had manipulated the country, and was planning on repeating the process in other countries, including Robison's beloved Britain. It also didn't help that he was in ill-health at the time [as he admits on page 15], and was addicted to opium.
His theory was further fueled when Robespierre, one of the key figures of the Revolution, was executed. To Robison, this was proof that the revolters were pawns, who had been set up to rebel, then were disposed of when they had exceeded their usefulness in dispatching with the king. But set up by who? Robison blamed the long-since disbanded Illuminati, and its founder, Adam Weishaupt. He believed that the Illuminati had infiltrated the Masonic lodges in other countries, and those lodges had "become the rendezvous of innovators in religion and politics, and other disturbers of the public peace . . .to teach doctrines subversive of all our notions of morality . . . gradually diffusing and mixing with all the different systems of Free Masonry; till, at last, AN ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN FORMED for the express purpose of ROOTING OUT ALL THE RELIGIOUS ESTABLISHMENTS, AND OVERTURNING ALL THE EXISTING GOVERNMENTS OF EUROPE." [emphasis Robison's].
I really do recommend you read it, prize. Working with first-hand sources is a lot more informative and educational than merely reading summaries or third or fifth hand regurgitations. There's a good scanned version of a second printing, on Archive.org here:
I won't quote or cite too much from it, because I trust you'll go away and read it if you have not already done so. There's a direct reference to the Jacobin Club on Page 42 and an accusation it was founded from a Masonic conspiracy. On Page 48, he believes that "religious free-thinking is generally the first step of anarchy and revolution." He later goes on to say: "This [Illuminati] therefore seems contrary to the designs of our Creator, who has every where placed us in these situations of inequality that are here so much scouted, and has given us strong propensities by which we relish these enjoyments." As you can see, Robison felt very threatened by the idea of reform, and was a loyal monarchist, who believed every man was put into his place by God, from the king on his throne to the poorman in the field, and one couldn't change it, and should be contented. Exactly the opposite of modern day conspiracists, who, ironically, promote the same ideals the Illuminati wanted; free speech, freedom freedom of religion, from a monarchy, etc. etc.
Robison's conspiracy was also helped by the arrival of Abbé Augustin de Barruel, a Jesuit priest who had fled France in the Revolution, to England. Barruel began writing his tract on the French Revolution, called Memoirs Illustrating the History of Jacobinism. It was published in four volumes between 1797 and 1798. In between the release of Volumes 2 and 3, Robison published his book. When Barruel began writing the 3rd volume, suddenly, it made mention of the "Illuminati", and the Freemasons, and the evil part they played in the Revolution. When this 3rd edition was published, Robison then began to reference it, and quoted from it during the 3rd reprints of his own book. Basically, they were copying one another, taking ideas from the other guy, who took ideas from the other, until the two were intertwined. You can read Barruel's work here.
And that's it. From these two men come all modern Illuminati conspiracy theories. Both of these monarchists wanted somebody to blame for the French Revolutions, and they both re-enforced each other's belief it was the dreaded Illuminati, even though there was no evidence for it. A chap called Robert Alan Greenberg wrote a very fine book on modern conspiracies and their origins, called "Enemy Within", (I don't like to simply quote other people's opinions but his conclusion is 100 times better worded than mine), and sums it up:
""Writing in the aftermath of the French Revolution, these monarchists had created a counterhistory in defense of the aristocracy. Winning the hearts and minds of present and future readers would assuage some of the pain of recent defeat and mobilize defenses. The Revolution, they argued, was not rooted in poverty and despotism. Rather than a rising of the masses, it was the work of Adam Weishaupt’s Illuminati, a secret society that plotted to destroy all civil and religious authority and abolish marriage, the family, and private property. It was the Illuminati who schemed to turn contented peasants 'from Religion to Atheism, from decency to dissoluteness, from loyalty to rebellion.'" - Page 45. There's a preview of his book on Google Books.
One man, called Henry Crabb Robinson, read both of these books, and not content to simply blindly believing them, travelled to Gotha in 1804, and sought out Adam Weishaupt in person. You can read his diary entries here. Weishaupt is on page 124. Robinson (not Robison - the names can be confusing) personally spoke to Weishaupt, which puts him one up on both Barruel and Robison, who could only rely on second-hand information and speculation. Robison (not Robinson) even admits he only had a "scanty knowledge of German", and was a poor choice to translate some of the documents. Anyway, Robinson (not Robion - there's a Monty Python sketch somewhere in this name confusion) personally interviewed Weishaupt, and you can hear some of his brief musings, such as on monarchy: "Evil flourishes until it destroys itself. So it was with Popery; so it will be with monarchy."
Weishaupt eventually died at age 82, in 1830. It seems he's dead, but not forgotten, and his dream of Enlightenment ideals have been corrupted and twisted by conspiracy theorists who paint him as some kind of Satanist, rather than a man who wanted freedom from beneath oppressive monarchies. The irony.
I don't understand what you mean by "there are many people that seem to be associated with [the Illuminati]" - there is no evidence for this, except (dodgy) speculation and bias interpretations of songs or music videos. The big problem I see is that you're operating under the preconceived notion that the Illuminati exists, that eyes are a symbol of the Illuminati, and therefore, any photos of an eye is "proof" that the Illuminati exist and the person is a member. This is circular logic. Surely you must see that? Are the one-eyed Cyclops part of the Illuminati? They were first described in Ancient Greece in around 700BC by Hesiod, more than two and a half thousand years ago. Is the Illuminati that old? You said yourself you believe they "re-banded in 1824." How does this explain the use of eyes in artwork long before this date, such as the title page for the 1614 printing of "The History of the World":
Do the Olympic mascots (called Wenlock and Mandeville) really have to be considered "Illuminati symbols" because they only have on eye? Doesn't it make more sense that the Olympics (from Greece) and their mascots be influenced by Greek imagery (like the cyclops), and not by a Germanic secret society? It's just plain silly and illogical to assign one and only one cause for an eye appearing in any form of graphic design. Same with your beliefs that these logos are everywhere, on DVDs and food, and companies. What, because they have triangles? Or use eyes? The CBS logo is an eye for example, because it's (predominantly) a television company. It wouldn't be a very good logo if it were of a nose, would it? Besides that, the original CBS logo was a rather dull affair, looking like this:
The eye was only added by in 1951, twenty-five years after CBS first went into business, and over 20 years after their first television broadcast on July 21st, 1931. If the Illuminati really ruled these companies, they sure take a long time getting their "subliminal" logos in place. What's your explanation for them taking so long?
As for popstars; why are there so many photoshoots where celebrities or artists cover one eye, or only show one eye? Simple. Because it's visually interesting. Photography would be pretty boring if all photo shoots were like driver's licence photos, or passport pictures, where it's flat, against a plain background with just a blank face looking forward. Pick up a book on photography, or watch a YouTube tutorial and learn about shape, proportion, orientation, cropping, empty space, colour saturation, colour desaturation, contrast, focus, geometry, the rule of thirds, light, shadows, lines, reflections, symmetry, perspective... ANYTHING, to make a photo stand out and be interesting and unique.
This is a passport photo:
This is a photo shoot:
This is a passport photo:
This is a photo shoot:
This is a passport photo:
This is a photo shoot:
Do you see how deathly boring one of the two is? What would you rather have in your magazine or album cover? I'll take creativity, thank you very much. I'm sure you would too.
I'm sorry if you see symbols everywhere, but surely that's a sign of your own paranoia? I was going to do a whole song-and-dance in the forum topic with all those images you posted on the alleged "symbol", starting with the Paramount logo, going through them one by one, like: First, a mountain isn't a pyramid (or indeed, triangle). Second, there's no eye above its zenith. Third, there's no flat zenith, like this supposed "symbol." Fourth, the circle of stars (which you claim made up the eye) wasn't even complete! It was essentially a semi-circle. Surely you can appreciate that you're making a lot of assumptions and filling in HUGE holes in your theory when you claim the stars are really a (incomplete) circle which is really an eye over a mountain which is really a pyramid which is really a secret symbol of a 200 year old Bavarian secret society.
It's not. If you want to look up the history of the Paramount or CBS logo, please do. It's historical, factual and interesting, and a lot more useful than believing that every logo (including the front cover to a conspiracy-based videogame(!), for Pete's sake) is an evil symbol, just because it has a triangle, circle (or even half a circle) or square (you know, basic shapes) in it. It's silly.
Now onto the meat of the matter.
The sign on the back of the US dollar is NOT an Illuminati symbol, nor is it a Masonic symbol either, despite what you've heard. After the Declaration of Independence was signed July 4 1776, by all of the 13 united colonies (Virginia, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Maryland, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Delaware, North Carolina, South Carolina, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania and Georgia), the Continental Congress commissioned the designing of a new national seal.
"Resolved, That Dr. [Benjamin] Franklin, Mr. J[ohn Quincy] Adams and Mr. [Thomas] Jefferson, be a committee, to bring in a device for a seal for the United States of America." – July 4, 1776, Journals of Continental Congress"
You can read some of the Congress' journals from the period on archive.org here.
Because Franklin, Adams and Jefferson had no knowledge of heraldry, they sought the assistance of a man called Pierre Eugène Du Simitière to assist them. Sadly, history has not been kind to Du Simitière, because Google Suggestions only has two results: "Pierre Eugène Du Simitière" and "Pierre Eugène Du Simitière illuminati." For shame. Anyway, Du Simitière was a Swiss artist who had emigrated to the (now newly-christened) United States several years prior, living in Philadelphia, and would be one of the key designers of the Seal. Rather than be a quickly decided matter, the Seal took over six years to design, and underwent many different changes, as each of the people involved had different ideas. I should also point out that, despite the claims of conspiracy
movies like National Treasure, only *one* of the designers was a Mason (Ben Franklin), and whilst President George Washington was a Mason, he took no part in the design of the Seal.
After a month of designing and planning, the first presentation of their written proposals to Congress took place in August. Benjamin Franklin took his inspiration from the Old Testament and the Book of Exodus:
"Moses standing on the Shore, and extending his Hand over the Sea, thereby causing the same to overwhelm Pharaoh who is sitting in an open Chariot, a Crown on his Head and a Sword in his Hand. Rays from a Pillar of Fire in the Clouds reaching to Moses, to express that he acts by Command of the Deity.
You can see his original handwritten notes on the Seal here:
The motto he chose was "Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God."
This design was rejected. It would later be drawn by a man called Benson John Lossing in July 1856 (and printed in Harper's New Monthly Magazine, Volume 13 Issue 74), and would end up looking like this:
Jefferson wanted the front of the Seal to be a depiction of the Children of Israel, and the reverse to be a depiction of Hengist and Horsa, based on early English Saxon legend.
Adams took his inspiration from Greek and Roman mythology, and based his Seal design on a painting called "Judgment of Hercules", where Hercules must decide between the path of indulgence ("flowery vice"), or the path of greatness ("rugged mountain of Virtue"). You can see a copy of the painting here:
All three of these designs were rejected, since they weren't traditional Seal designs, being too dependent on imagery, rather than heraldry, and didn't convey much information as a seal should. Du Simitière's design was the only one that came closest to being approved, because it was a traditionally designed heraldic Seal. His written proposal was thus:
"The shield has six Quarters, parts one, coupé. The 1st Or, a Rose enamelled gules and argent for England: the 2nd Argent, a Thistle proper for Scotland: the 3d Vert a Harp Or for Ireland: the 4th Azure a Flower de luce Or for France: the 5th Or the Imperial Eagle Sable for Germany: and the 6th Or the Belgic Lion Gules for Holland, pointing out the countries from which these states have been peopled.
The shield within a bordure Gules entwined of thirteen Scutcheons Argent linked together by a chain or, each charged with the initial letters Sable, as follows: 1st NH, 2nd MB, 3d RI, 4th C, 5th NY, 6th NJ, 7th P, 8th DC, 9th M, 10th V, 11th NC, 12th SC, 13th G, for each of the thirteen independent States of America.
Supporters, Dexter the Goddess of Liberty in a corselet of Armour, alluding to the present times, holding in her right hand the Spear and Cap and with her left supporting the shield of the States; Sinister the Goddess of Justice bearing a sword in her right hand and in her left a Balance.
Crest, the Eye of Providence in a radiant Triangle whose Glory extends over the shield and beyond the Figures.
Motto: E Pluribus Unum. [translation: "Out of Many, One"]
Legend round the whole achievement, "Seal of the United States of America MDCCLXXVI"
The part in bold will interest you most of all, since it is the first incarnation of what would eventually become your famous eye. However, as you can see, the eye is NOT referred to as "The All-Seeing Eye", "the eye of Horus", or indeed, "The All-Seeing Eye of Horus" (which doesn't exist) but "The Eye of Providence." If you've ever read the Declaration of Independence (if not, why not? It's one of the most important historical documents ever written, even if you don't believe in conspiracies), you'll know that the last line is:
"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor."
Divine Providence being God, essentially.
The finished design would look like this, as sketched by Du Simitière himself in 1776:
But! As you might have noted, I said Du Simitière's design came "closest" to being approved, but it was still rejected. Congress would then commission a second design committee in March 1780. The members of the design team this time were James Lovell, a delegate from Massachusetts, who headed the team, and John Morin Scott, New York Senator, and William Churchill Houston from New Jersey. The designer they employed this time around was Francis Hopkinson, the same chap who had helped designed the United States Flag in 1777:
...and also signed the Declaration of Independence, being from New Jersery. None of them were Masons. Hopkinson did most of the work, and delivered the sketches he had done to Congress on May 10th. His design for the front and reverse of the Seal was thus:
You'll notice similar themes and symbols being repeated, such as the use of the number 13 in the stars atop the shield. Far from being an evil or unlucky number, as conspiracy theorists claim, it's actually representing the 13 united colonies (Virginia, Massachusetts...et al) that form the United States. "Out of Many, One", as the motto on Du Simitière's design said - out of many states, one country. There are also 13 alternating stripes on the shield. Congress had already approved the flag and its use of the 13 stripes and stars, so it made sense to tie the flag and Seal together using common heraldry:
You'll also notice other design features that'll be included in the final Seal, like the Olive branch on one side of the shield, and the Sword on the other side, with the motto "Bello vel Paci" translating as "For War or For Peace" - again, this being an ideal coming from the Declaration of Independence, in which it states:
"...as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do..."
The finished design would portray this via the American Eagle (representing Congress) clutching arrows in one talon (representing War), and an olive branch in the other (representing peace). The "power to levy war and to conclude peace."
The Reverse of Hopkinson's Seal has the figure of Liberty holding a staff on which a liberty, or pileus/phrygian cap sits. It looks similar to the triangular Eye of Providence from Du Simitiere's design, but it's not, and is merely another symbol of freedom (dating back to the Greeks, and later, Romans ), which would later be used in theofficial Seal of Iowa.
However, this design was ALSO rejected by Congress. A third commission of a design team took place on May 4, 1782. This time, it included Declaration signers Arthur Middleton and former Southern Carolina governor John Rutledge and Elias Boudinot from New Jersey. A man called Arthur Lee from Virginia was on the committee, but he was replaced by Rutledge. As with all the design teams, they employed the expertise of a specialist in heraldry, this time a man called William Barton. None of these men were Masons. Barton did two designs, and the committee submitted the second one, the front of which looked like this:
And the reverse of which looked like this:
You'll notice the influence from Du Simitière's Eye of Providence, except this time Barton didn't use a triangle. You'll also spot the steps of the incomplete pyramid for the first time. Barton took the design from the Seal on the Continental Currency, which had been designed by Hopkinson, utilising the same 13 colonies motif as his flag and Seal design, with the pyramid having 13 steps: (or "Strata", as they were called).
The motto "Deo Favente" on Barton's seal translates as "With God's Favour" - again, reinforcing that the Eye is NOT the "Eye of Horus" like you claim, but the "Eye of Providence"/the eye of God.
Needing a Seal rather quickly (the 1983 Paris Treaty was looming), Congress turned over all the previous designs to one man, called Charles Thomson. Thomson took inspiration from all the previous designs and blended them together. The front of his Seal, taking the Latin motto from Du Simitière, the 13 stars and stripes and "powers of War and Peace" from Hopkinson, and was drawn as thus:
For the reverse, he took Barton's design, and added the triangle around the Eye of Providence from Du Simitière.
You can read his final report on the Seal here (pages 41 and 42):
Congress approved the final designs June 20, 1782; the same day Thomson submitted them. In addition to the designs themselves, he gave his heraldic explanation for the design. Of the pyramid, which he simply called "Pyramid unfinished", he said it represented "Strength and Duration."
...Now, that's a lot of information to take in, but I hope you can see that it wasn't simply a case of "Illuminati did it" - a lot of people were involved in the design over a period of six years. Only *one* of the designers was a Mason (Ben Franklin), none of his ideas were Masonic or Illuminati in nature, none of his proposed ideas made it into the Seal, and by the time the Seal had been approved by Congress, he wasn't even in the country, as he was already in France as the United States Minister to France. He had no influence over the final design.
So, contrary to what you later write about "symbols", the Eye is NOT the "eye of Horus", and nor is it "The All-Seeing Eye" - in none of the letters, reports or proposals to Congress do the words "Horus" or "All-Seeing" turn up. Likewise, the pyramid does not represent "the 300 families", but, as Thomson said, "strength and endurance" of their newly founded country. What 300 families, dare I ask? Do you mean "the Old Three Hundred"? If so, why? They were the first American settlers in Texas in 1821. The city of Austin is named for the settlement's founder, Stephen Austin. How does a colonial settlement in 1821 manage to feature in the US Seal, which was approved 39 years beforehand? If you could also tell me which of the "300" have the most "knowledge" and "power"? None of the original settlers went on to be of much historical importance, except some who would fight in the Texas Revolution (like Martin Varner
). If you don't mean the 300 Texan families, then you'll have to explain to me who you mean, how they relate to the Great Seal, and mostly important, the source of your information.
I'd also like a source on your rather disgusting claim that "Jewish Bankers funded Hitler." You really are skirting with some rather unsavoury people, prizehunta, when you say things like this. I know you said to keep this friendly, but things like this really do irk me. These are the claims found on Holocaust denialist websites, white supremacist organisations, or being squeezed out the lips of vile creatures like David Duke. I trust you've heard the name "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" on your travels through conspiracies? I trust you know that this is a well-known and well-debunked anti-Semitic hoax? It has a long history. Remember when I talked about conspiratorial plagiarism in the forum thread? The Protocols is what I was specifically referring to, and I was hoping you'd either know what I was talking about, or look it up. This is the most disgusting, vilest document ever fabricated, and has fueled anti-Semitism, violence, hysteria and conspiracy theories for over 100 years. The Protocols are alleged to be the secret minutes of a "Zionist" meeting in which the Jews discussed their plans to dominate the world, with the co-operation of the Freemasons. It, along with John Robison's tract about Freemasons and the Illuminati, are the two most influential conspiratorial sources, and as with all conspiracies, have fused together, and have become interchangeable enough to mean the same thing - International Bankers = Jews = Zionists = Freemasons = Illuminati = New World Order = Shape shifting lizards from Outer Space. As I said, the Protocols are a hoax, having been copied and pasted from an anti-Semitic novel called Biarritz, which in turn copied and pasted from French satirical pamphlet called The Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu, by Maurice Joly. You can read the full history of the printing and spread of the Protocols, but some key information:
-Published first in Russia, 1903, by the monarch-loving, nationalistic Black Hundreds newspaper called Znamya.
-Re-published again, by a Russian "mystic", called Serge Nilus in 1905, 1907, and 1917. with each printing, he changed the story of how he came by the documents, contradicting himself each time. Most likely, he simply copied and pasted them from the newspaper articles.
-1917 - The Russian Revolution. Similar to the French Revolution, and John Robison, people wanted a simple answer to such a bloody and world-changing uprising. They found it very easy to assign blame, thanks to the readily avaliable Protocols.
-1919 - the explosion of the book and the key year, as it finds its way to London, where it is translated by a chappy called George Shanks, and published as "The Jewish Peril" by The Britons, an anti-Semitic printing company. Shanks worked at the Morning Post, whose editor, Howell Gwynne later published the Protocols as fact in 1920. The articles were then collected and printed in a book called "The Cause of World Unrest."
One of the contributors to the articles, Nesta Webster, was the one who then re-ignited the lamps of the Illuminati conspiracy, having read Robison's book in her study of the French Revolution. She, like Robison over a 120 years prior, blamed this new Revolution on some unseen conspiracy, and wrote a book about it. You can read it here:
You'll note that she quotes from Robison's book several times, and makes references to Barruel's work as well. As with all conspiracy theorists, she simply copies the (bogus) conclusions of others, and adds her own, in this case, that the Illuminati was behind the Russian Revolution, and that the Jews (she called them "Zionists") were behind the Illuminati. She wasn't a very nice lady. In addition to supporting fascism, she would go on writing similar books, like "Secret Societies and Subversive Movements", which you can read here:
Unlike her first book, this one is much more anti-Semitic, and openly blamed the Jews (but again, she like to swap and call them "Zionists" now and again) at every turn.
-The Protocols travel the globe, crossing into Japan through Siberia, and into Hungary, but they eventually find their way to America, and into the hands of one Henry Ford. I trust you know of him. He had bought up a little newspaper in Dearborne Michigan, called the Dearborne Independent. In this newspaper, for over 7 years, were published countless articles on the evils of the Jews, and how they secretly rule the world. The proof of this were the Protocols, which were published several times in the paper. These articles were eventually bundled together to form a book, called "The International Jew", which is still being sold to this day. Read some of the names of the chapters of the book, and see if they sound familiar to you:
You'll notice they accuse the Jews of being behind everything from liquor, to movies, to the first World War and more. The one titled "How Jewish International Finance Functions" should sound a few alarm bells for you. When conspiracy theorists say the words "international bankers", they tend to mean "International Jewish bankers." The more openly anti-Semitic groups will freely use say so, but the more 'mainstream' theorists will either hide it in code, like "Zionist bankers", "global bankers", "elite bankers" or "Illuminati bankers", or aren't aware of the horrible anti-Semitism they're spreading.
Anyway, this book, the International Jew, gets translated and published all over the world. A man called Theodor Fritsch, in Germany, translates it and publishes it. Theodor Fritsch is an important name in history, because of the movement he helped start called "Reichshammerbund" in 1912. The symbol they used was the Swastika. I trust you know what that would later go on to symbolise in Nazi Germany. I also trust, if you've done GCSE History, that you know about the "November Criminals" and the Stab-in-the-Back legend
All these collected materials (and countless more) would later serve as the inspiration for a young man called Adolf Hitler to write his first book, "Mein Kampf", in jail. In it, he alleges there is a "Judeo-Masonic" conspiracy ruling the world, which was responsible for not only starting the First World War, but also for causing Germany's defeat. ...I don't need to mention what Hitler went on to do (and he was NOT financed by "Jewish Bankers" - I can't stress enough how disgusting that claim is.)
I will, however, mention the name of an anti-Semitic propaganda film produced in Nazi Germany, called "The Rothschilds." You can watch it on YouTube, if you'd like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60M2x0zjh60
Remember, this was a real film produced by the Nazis, spreading conspiracy theories that The Rothschilds family was to blame for all the wars. You'll notice that the top comments on the video have, surprise surprise, favourited videos on Holocaust denialism, David Duke and David Irving. The guy called "elviswinehuse" writes on one video: "We desperately need another Hitler. The yids are destroying us. **** the jew World Order!
Do you see what I mean when I asked you in the forum thread not to be used as a tool for spreading hatred? Whether you like it (or know it) or not, you're pushing the same old "Rothschilds Family is evil and rule the world" lies that were pushed by the Nazis then, and are pushed by Neo-Nazis and conspiracy theorists today.
-Back to the Protocols, which also find their way into Spain, and into the hands of a man called Francisco Franco, who, like Hitler, believed there was a "Judeo-Masonic" conspiracy ruling the world.
"The Masonry, That is the Enemy
All is well, thank God. The military operations of our national army, the value of our militia, developments in North and South, special protection of Heaven in our favor. Many remarkable things we know and many miracles were counted after the war. But the triumph will not be FULL, FINAL, AND STABLE as long as the Masonry in our Spain. And to make that go away, to do?
-Franco, in the newspaper "El defensor de Córdoba" (I have a PDF copy of the paper if you'd like it, or there's this image I quickly made in Paint.
Franco believed that Communism was a part of this Judeo-Masonic international plot, and he used it as justification to execute people who challenged his rule, right up until his death in 1975. Mike Elkin, a Spanish historian and archeologist writes in Archeology magazine:
"From the onset of the Spanish Civil War in July 1936 to Franco's death in November 1975, it is estimated that Franco's Nationalists killed between 75,000 and 150,000 supporters of the Republic and Republican forces killed around 60,000 Nationalists. . . [P]risoners were taken to secluded areas and shot in the head. The bodies were then dumped into freshly dug graves. One estimate has the number of people still lingering in unmarked graves at 30,000 . . .
If you'd like a gruesome picture, here's a photo of one of those graves being uncovered:
Do you see a pattern emerging here? Where the ones who lead bloody dictatorships will do anything to cement and hold themselves in power, including scapegoating a particular group as "the enemy" who plots against them and the world? You'll notice this group tends to be the same ones; either the Masons, or the Jews. Today, it's "The Illuminati" - just another name for the same old scapegoat.
I won't go into other countries ruthless dictators and their use of the Protocols of Zion to justify their brutal rule, like Idi Amin. You can watch a
documentary on Amin, where he spouts praise for the Protocols, on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygmHRjimpq4#t=57m32s (he mentions the Protocols at 57:32) But know this, the Protocols, even being a known and exposed hoax, still continues to be published, still continues to be used by some to justify their acts (The founding charter of Hamas directly mentions the Protocols in Article 32 - "Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying."), still used to spread hatred (it's tops the book charts in Syria ), still used in propaganda by state-owned media like Iran. I'll leave those crimes against freedom and humans right for you to research, and instead, I'll focus on the Protocols use by conspiracy theorists like Texe Marrs, who sells copies of the Protocols on his site, and Dav[e] Icke, who originally used the Protocols as the basis of his Illuminati conspiracies, but when he was accused of being an anti-semite, he switched to his "reptoids" from outer space theory. From the pages of his 1995 book "...and the truth shall set you free":
"In the very late 1800's, a controversial document came to light called the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion". I call them the Illuminati Protocols, and I quote many extracts from them in The Robots' Rebellion. Some say they were a forgery made public only to discredit Jews, and I use the term "Illuminati Protocols" to get away from the Jewish emphasis. If they were a forgery, something that is quite possible, what were they a forgery of, and by whom?" - Page 57.
You'll note how he freely admits to quoting from them, since they're really the "Illuminati Protocols", and he renamed them to "get away from the Jewish emphasis." Remember how I said conspiracy theories copy and paste stuff? Icke's doing the same here. He's taking an anti-semitic tract that blames the Jews for all the ills in the world, and simply renames it, whilst keeping all the contents. And he's acts shocked people would accuse him of being anti-Semitic.
""I strongly believe that a small Jewish clique which has contempt for the mass of Jewish people worked with non-Jews to create the First World War, the Russian Revolution, and the Second World War. This Jewish/non-Jewish Elite used the First World War to secure the Balfour Declaration and the principle of the Jewish State of Israel (for which, given the genetic history of most Jewish people, there is absolutely no justification on historical grounds or any other). They then dominated the Versailles Peace Conference and created the circumstances which made the Second World War inevitable. They financed Hitler to power in 1933 and made the funds available for his rearmament." - Page 130 (Gee...that bolded claim sounds familiar...didn't you say something similar, prize?)
The next quote is where he goes into Holocaust denialism (or the "I'm just asking questions" gambit) territory:
""The same attitude that suppressed the challenge to the manipulation of World War Two, today sees people vilified and jailed for questioning some of the official versions of the Holocaust in Nazi Germany. If you do that, no one listens to the evidence because this is lost in the tidal wave of vilification and condemnation. If people want to believe that all those who question the official line are Nazis and apologists for the Hitler regime, or anti-Jewish, then they must go ahead and do so. But I'll tell them this. They are kidding themselves, because that isn't true. It simply isn't." - Page 127
He goes on with his Holocaust denialism on Page 135:
"How is it right that while this fierce suppression goes on, free copies of the Spielberg film, Schindler's List, are given to schools to indoctrinate children with the unchallenged version of events. "
Icke is probably the #1 leading conspiracy theorists today, aside from Alex Jones. He's a real pro at it, touring the world, giving expensive lectures, writing expensive books, giving expensive interviews.... Judging from some of the things you've said ("Problem-Solution", being one), I imagine you follow him, or at least have had his theories trickle down to you by people copying and pasting from him. Yet surely you can see his basis for this conspiracy of his is completely groundless. He quotes from the known-hoax "Protocols" (I imagine he's stopped now, having built off the back of it for his new space lizards theory), he blames the Illuminati, just like Nesta Webster did before him, and just as John Robison did before her. When you go to the roots of their conspiracy beliefs, you'll see it's all lies, prize, and how their current information can't be trusted as a result. Texe Marrs, for example, frequently appears on Alex Jones' show ("Texe Marrs taught me so much of what I know... ), and just by browsing the front page of Marrs' site, you'll see how overt he is in his hatred of Jews:
"You and I know for sure that it is the ones who call themselves “Jews” who, led by the Devil, are responsible for the last day’s catastrophe. Many today will not breathe a word about this, “for fear of the Jews.”)
All the big-time, mainstream conspiracy theorists all have this anti-semitic taint on them, where they piggy-back off other, more racist and overtly hateful writers to further themselves. I don't see how you can possibly take a word these guys say as any kind of authority, prize. It's nothing but a den of bigots and hacks.
As for Syria, conspiracy theorists said the United Nations would go into Egypt during their uprising (and start World War 3). They didn't, and needless to say, I haven't seen World War 3. The UN also didn't go into Tunisia or Yemen during the Arab Spring there. They haven't also have gone into Syria (yet, if at all.). As for your allegations that the United Nations supplied arms to Syria, could you give me a source for that? I can't refute something that I have no information on. Besides, it's rather naive to imply the "problem" is simply the UN "supplying weapons", as opposed to the vast levels of corruption, poor economic and politicial infrastructure, and dictatorship that's ruled Syria since the 1970 coup. As always, conspiracy theorists like yourself condense VAST decades of international political struggles to simply "The UN did it." I'd hoped you'd also pick up on the fact that I said the Syrian uprising has been going on for over a year now, but perhaps my implied point was lost. If the UN was going to "send in their peacekeepers", what's taking them so long? Surely they'd want Assad gone as soon as possible, right, if there's going to steal all the resources? Yet, he's still there, and the uprising's still going on.
So, do I have a totally different opinion to you? I think you know the answer to that. I hope Syria will be able to cast off Assad and a people's government step up in its place, and I have every confidence they'll be able to do it without UN-intervention, but hopefully they do it with lessened armed support from the Free Syrian Army. If you want a great film about revolution, try Sergio Leone's A Fistful of Dynamite. There's a nice scene in it, which sums up why armed revolutions aren't worth fighting for. Luckily, somebody's uploaded it to YouTube. If you also want some interesting literature to read, try Gene Sharp's "From Dictatorship to Democracy", which examines non-violent resistance to dictatorships. It's also freely distributed. prize, the world is a big, scary, confusing place, and I really hope you make an effort to try and understand it better by expanding your worldview, rather than simplifying it to "one secret club rules the world and controls everything."
On to the symbols!
Amazingly, you're almost off to a good start with the Freemason symbols. The main symbol is indeed the Compass and Set Square. The "G" isn't a standard feature of the symbol, however, and there's no real evidence that the "G" stands for God, as it can equally be claimed to be "G" for Geomeotry, which would make more sense, considering the use of the compass and square, and the origins of Freemasonry. The oldest known Masonic document, called the Regius Poem, has the line:
"On this manner, thru good wit of Geometry - Began first the Craft of Masonry."
Other lines include:
"In that time, through good geometry,
This honest craft of good masonry
Was ordained and made in this manner,
Counterfeited of these clerks together;
At these lord’s prayers they counterfeited
And gave it the name of masonry,
For the most honest craft of all."
The Regius Poem dates back to 14th century. The earliest reference to the "G" referring to God that I can see is in 1744, in a French Lodge, in a tract called "Le Catéchisme des Francs Maçons":
"A great Light in which I perceived the Letter G.
Q. What does the Letter G signify?
A. God, that is to say DIEU, or one who is greater than you."
I think it's safe to say that, through the ages, translations (i.e. a lodge in France) and Masonic deviations, the original Geometry G has evolved, and can now equally stand for God, or as the Masons would say "Grand Geometrician of the Univese." They refer to a "creator" or "grand geometrician" or "architect" as a neutral term, allowing its members to infer their own beliefs, regardless of their religion, since it is by and large a non-religious fraterinty.
You go completely off the rails when you talk about "33 Degrees" - this is another anti-Masonry myth, spread by those who are fearful of the group, and that there's hidden, evil knowledge locked away "in the higher ranks." There are only 3 Degrees in Craft Masonry - "Entered Apprentice", "Fellowcraft" and then finally, "Master Mason." That's it. Once you're a Master Mason, you've reached the highest degree. I know this may seem confusing, because 33 is a higher number than 3, and therefore must mean it's more important, but it's not true, in the same way that a Boy Scout with more merit badges doesn't mean he's superior to a Boy Scout who doesn't have as many. Thee are other degrees, yes, but these are supplementary and honoury degrees, and not taught in Craft Masonry, and indicate no superiority or "enlightment" over anybody else in the Lodge. To really understand, you need a hell of a lot of context on not only the history of Freemasonry, but all the various offshoots, appendent bodies and parts, such as the Scottish Rite. And I mean *real* context, not conspiracy interpretations and speculation. Go to the source. Visit the Grand Lodge down in London. Far from being a closed doors type of place, they do tours. Always go to the source. If the conspiracy article you're reading doesn't list a source, or doesn't provide context, ignore it, prizehunta. If it doesn't have evidence to back it up, don't believe it. That includes me. Look up what I'm saying. Double-check it, in the same way I look up the things you mention. I've provided quotes and some links, but I trust you'll go away and look up things further.
33 in itself is not a significant number, other than it sounds cool to outsiders, or because, like Alex Jones, they can double it, and it makes 666, which is pi. (Needless to say, 33 times 2 doesn't equal 666, nor is it Pi, unless you fail at basic Maths)
The Skull and Bones is NOT a cult. It's a Yale University secret society. Much has been made of it as being an evil, sinister place, but it's no different to any fraternity on a college campus, simply because it's got a spooky name and some of its members being George W. Bush, his father, and his 2004 Presidential opponent John Kerry. I don't know where you get the number "666" from, since the only prominent number is that of "322", of which there's no clear origin for. There's not much to say about Skull and Bones, other than it's a frat house, and was essentially (until 1992, when co-eds joined the group) a No-Girls-Allowed club. To me, it's like accusing a school Chess Club of being an evil conspiracy, because they all meet together at the same time, share the same interests, have nicknames, and that they all play Chess (or if I was a conspiracy theorist, "plot evil machinations as they control the world and its pawns behind closed doors").
It's not some secret club where they ruthless try to cover up its history, as Yale University even offers an small online archive of some of the club's literature and artwork:
You could even visit the University (although I doubt you have the time, inclination or expense to do so) and browse through their archives for material not yet uploaded or categorised. They have quite a large selection of material on the various clubs and secret socities of Yale:
For instance, picking a name at random from the list, you've got the Calliopean Society, which is a literary debate group. It has a mythological name, and even has an emblem:
Nobody, that I can see, has ever accused the Calliopean Society of being part of a conspiracy (why would they be? They're a nerdy private book club), so I'll be the first to do so. I can point out the emblem, and explain how it's really an evil, occult symbol that they use to worship Satan, and how if you rearrange the numbers, it spells out "9/11.". I can point out the meaning of the name "Calliopean", and the evil meaning behind it from Greek mythology, including Zeus, an Olympian! (gasp, didn't you say "Olympian" meant "enlightened one"?! It's all true! They are a part of the Illuminati!). I can show pictures of their ancient, sinister documents which contain their plans for world domination:
Or their member's lists (Richard Taylor, Confederate General, and son of US President Zachary Taylor, was a member!). :
Or some of their group photos:
If I add spooky music and compile it altogether in a YouTube video, boom, instant conspiracy gold. After all, who's going to contradict me?
The rather laboured point I'm trying to make here, prize, is if I came up with the Calliopean = Illuminati theory decades ago, it would have grown and snowballed, been copied and pasted until now being an accepted part of the Illuminati super-conspiracy, just like Skull and Bones is, despite there being no absolutely no evidence for it. Skulls and Bones were seized upon, scrutinised in the exact same paranoid way, and it's now simply take at face-value that they're a part of this grand, ancient conspiracy.
I discussed your "theory" on the Illuminati "symbols" of the pyramid and "Eye of Horus" above in the Great Seal, and needless to say, it doesn't hold water. The "rock sign"? Really? You're now borrowing Christian Right-Wing American fears of Satanism from the 80s. There was a mass moral panic that Satanists were running child abuse cults, having orgies, drinking the blood of babies, and all that jazz. Good Christian parents could tell they were Satanists because they listened to rock music, played Dungeons and Dragons, wore black, or, gasp, did the "rock sign." Innocent people went to jail because of this panic, prize. The repeating of claims like this is still, as ever, dangerous. Not just in setting off the nuts, like the Pittsburgh shooter (you STILL have not taken down the video, by the way - you also haven't made justification for stealing it and claiming it as your own), but innocent people being jailed. Just take a look at the cases listed on Wikipedia:
...like Kern County, where John Stoll spent 22 years in jail for a crime he didn't commit, or Bernard Baran, who only had his criminal conviction overturned in 2009, after 24 years in prison. He too was innocent. His life has been taken away from him and wasted by people, like yourself, pointing fingers and saying "he's a part of a Satanic cult!" I hope you understand the consequences of spreading conspiracies. You haven't made any mention (or apology) of people like Richard Poplawski the Pittsburgh cop killer, or David Copeland the London Nailbomber (who believed Zionists ruled the world), or Eric Rudolph, who bombed the 1996 Olympics, believing there was a global socialist conspiracy promoting the "homosexual agenda" and abortions. You can read his full confession here: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4600480
Hand on heart, I don't think you believe the Illuminati exist, or that a nuclear bomb will go off at the Olympic games. I think you're kidding yourself, and playing a self-deluding game with likeminded people on the Internet. A nuclear bomb?! Going off in the middle of London?! In just a couple of months?! You're taking it all rather calmly, I must say; almost as if you know that your (and mine) impending death from nuclear detonation is completely nonsense, but like to play along. However, some people can't distinguise between reality and delusion. I have been following, with much sadness, the mental decline of a woman on YouTube, called Gabrielle Chana. Here's her latest video (yes, she's
wearing a tin-foil hat. Trolls are sadly messing with her, telling her to wear one, worsening her mental health): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzR1Edm7Ggo
If you watch the rest of her videos, you'll see how badly she needs help. She believes in the New World Order, prize. Your grip on reality might be as firm as mine, but some people are vulnerable to this kind of conspiracy garbage, and they really can't distinguise between delusion and reality. You know that law you mentioned later about making "trolling illegal" and how its somehow a violation of your rights, when you see videos like this:
...where people are calling her up
and indulging and enforcing her delusions; do you not think, how can they do this?
They are destroying the mental health of an already deluded woman and getting away with it. The reason? It's not illegal. There's no reprisials for doing it. Do you think people should get away with trolling like this, pretending to threaten Hugh Jackman
(note the "We are Legion . . .expect us"
line, which'll give you a good idea as to who's trolling her), or telling her that her son
has been kidnapped by the "Jesuits"? The things she says or what they're trolling her with may sound goofy or funny to you (you're a teenager in the Internet Age, after all), or that she believes this and wears a tinfoil hat, but to Gabrielle, it's ruining her, and running her deeper into isolation from those who can help her. Are you still against trolling laws now? Or is trolling just harmless fun?
I'm not trying to blame you, scare you, or imply you're somehow responsible, but I really want you to understand the danger of promoting conspiracies. They can lead to real world violence and cruelty, or can lead to personal depression and mental insanity. Nobody cares for Gabrielle. She's a nobody. A middle-aged woman who works at Wal*Mart
with no friends, an ex-husband who left her because of her obsession with Star Trek actor Brent Spiner
, a son she loves but isn't allowed to see, and a mother she accuses of being a "clone"
. There's nobody looking out for her. The only people who watch her videos are trolls. If there are laws to stop this kind of abuse, then sign me up to it, prize. You may think it takes away from your freedom of speech, but I think it'll help those who are victimised, whether they know it or not.
I can only smile at your naievity about "Zion", or what you believe conspiracy theorists really mean when they say "Zionists" (here's a hint, it 4 letters, starts with J, and ryhmes with Yews.) Even lovely old Holocaust-denying President of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad pushes forward this theory of the "hidden symbol" in the Olympics logo
. How did he come to this theory? Simple. "Internet documents"
, the official Iranian complaint was. Now, he doesn't make it at all clear what he means by "internet documents", but I think we can infer he means conspiracy theories, quite like the one in that video you posted, on YouTube and the conspiracy forums. So, remember, next time you post a YouTube video, the President of Iran might be watching and taking notes for his next speech.
Also, "many games, many movies"...I figured you'd say The Matrix, that's a given, but name me another. Name me some of these "many" instances in movies and games (and Matrix videogames don't count, as you've already mentioned it). And what do you mean it's a "re-occuring theme of the Olympics"? Other than twisting around the logo, rearranging the numbers, moving that little "dot" over the 1, and rotating the final 2 to make a N, where else does the word "zion" occur?
"Olympians is another name for Enlightened Ones"
- according to who? The Olympians are simply the 12 Greek gods who live atop Mount Olympus, their home, in Classic Greek mythology. If you could provide me with where "Olympian" translates to "Enlightened Ones", I'd be happy, as no dictionary or encyclopedia that I can see ever refer to them as such.
And finally, the laws, which I was hoping would be more substantial, but sadly not. Benefits being cut is a very debatable subject, but nothing to do with freedom of speech (or indeed, human rights) but it's clear reform is needed to close the massive loopholes that allow tax spongers to milk the system dry. Pensions? Regrettable in either case, but what pensions do you mean, state or private? There's a slight difference, and arguments to be made both for and against cuts, but until I know what pensions you mean, I can't say (and boy, this PM is already long enough!). "No Strike Law" - I know nothing about this. Gotta link? A cursory Google search for the phrase bought up an article from The Independent from 1996 about postal strikes, but nothing recent. Same with "No peaceful protest in affect 2013". I need a link to the actual bill or law being proposed or drafted, as I can't find anything using the search "2013 protest law"
So here we are at the end of this giant concrete slab of a private message. Maybe I'm naive to think you'll read it all, or go off and read some of the many links or references contained within, but I hope you will. I hope you will eventually shed this conspiratorial thinking and move on, as some people get stuck in it their whole lives, stunting their views on world affairs or politics, simply because they believe in some 200 year old boogie-man runs the world in secret. Perhaps when the Olympic bomb doesn't go off? Only a 101 days left to go!
I'll level with you, prize, when I was your age, it was the JFK assassination that bit me like a bug. You wouldn't believe the crazy and insane stuff I believed about it, simply because I read it in a book, or saw something on the early days of the internet (like how the driver shot JFK, or there was a man in the sewer with a rifle, and so on). Then, one day, I found that all this crazy stuff began to contradict itself, then I noticed that its sources weren't true, or didn't exist, and most of the stuff was either made up, or misquoted and twisted beyond its original telling. I then went and read what I should have read at the beginning, The Warren Commission, which I didn't, since I was told it was all full of lies. I then saw how foolish I was, and that far from the Commission telling lies or distoring truths, it was the conspiracists, who will do anything to keep their world view as simplistic as possible - "The Illuminati control everything, everywhere and everyone", rather than accept that things simply happen in the world, without a guiding hand, control, or system in place. It's a scary thought, to think nobody has control, but it's a lot more comforting and healthy than conspiracies.
I hope you too will go to the sources and see for yourself if the conspiracies you believe are true, or simply made up. I'd start with the US Seal, and that eye and pyramid, since you seem to see it everywhere. When you learn it's real meaning, history and designers, perhaps the other parts of the conspiracy will naturally fall away for you. Good luck, prize.